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. >> yes, sir. no, sir. yes, sir. no, sir. yes, sir. >>> who is rachel jeantel? also, one of the 27 nfl players charged with a crime since the super bowl. >> despite the fact he has a fiancee and a baby and is a homeowner, he also has a means to flee and a bracelet won't stop him and not the $250,000. denying the bail. >> does the nfl have an image problem, or will the fans forgive as they normally do? >>> i want to begin with the teenage girl, rachel jeantel took the stand today for a second day and face add heated cross-examination from the defense. >> if you thought it was just a fight because it was one you knew trayvon martin was planning to start? >> no, sir. he would have told me, sir, and told me to call him back or he'll call me back, sir. >> you didn't have information from the news this was racially charged. >> no, i don't watch the news. >> okay. are you okay this morning? >> yes. >> you seem so different than yesterday, just checking. did someone talk -- >> is that a question? >> yes, did someone talk with you last night about your >> you didn't have information ffrom the n
and veteran defense attorney. it started out nice enough, rachel jeantel seemed to have adopted a more respectful tone. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: but it wasn't long before her yes, sirs seemed to take on a sharper edge. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: defense attorney don west was out to discredit her testimony that george zimmerman was the aggressor and pointed to numerous changes in her story in previous accounts including a letter to trayvon's mother, describing what she heard. in it, she left out trayvon's derogatory racial language. >> you specifically chose not to tell ms. fulton that's what trayvon said. >> no. >> because you thought it would hurt her feelings, didn't you? >> no. >> you didn't think that would bother her, if you said that her son described the man that was following him in a car on the phone -- >> i didn't think. >> was a creepy ass cracker. >> i did not think that was important. >> not important enough to put in the letter. >> no. >> and not important enough to tell her. >> no. >> reporter: she said martin sounded tired on the phone like he was running but she said h
. >>> who is rachel jeantel? also, one of the 27 nfl players charged with a crime since the super bowl. >> despite the fact he has a fiancee and a baby and is a homeowner, he also has a means to flee and a bracelet won't stop him and not the $250,000. denying the bail. >> does the nfl have an image problem, or will the fans forgive as they normally do? >>> i want to begin with the teenage girl, rachel jeantel took the stand today for a second day and face add heated cross examination from the defense. >> if you thought it was just a fight because it was one you knew trayvon martin was planning to start? >> no, sir. he would have told me, sir, and told me to call him back or he'll call me back, sir. >> martin savidge is outside the courthouse. martin, a rather dramatic change in the way that she conducted herself today. >> reporter: oh, yeah, absolutely, piers. that's what everybody nope 'tissed, she dressed slightly different but she had been advised. she sounded that way, too, with of course, the yes, sir. unfortunately, just as you point out, the more she said yes, sir, it got a shar
school student rachel jeantel describe the final conversation to prosecutors. >> i was calling, trayvon, trayvon. i heard him saying, get off, get off. >> let me stop you. you said something, what did you say? >> i said, trayvon, what is going on? >> what did you hear? >> i heard trayvon say, get off, get off. then suddenly the phone hung up. it shut off. >> when the phone shut off, what happened then? >> i called him back. >> you called trayvon martin back? >> yes. >> were you able to talk to him again? >> no. >> rachel jeantel described what trayvon martin had said about the man who was following him. >> i asked him what the man looked like. he said he looked creepy. >> creepy ass cracker? ok. crocs is thatt what you recall him saying? is that mean a white individual? >> yes. >> what did he say after that? >> he told me the man was looking at him. i thought maybe he was a racist. >> defense attorney don west questioned rachel about why she characterized the murder as wer racial. >> what is one thing that made you think this was racial based on what trayvon told you? >> describing the
're probably uncertain about a lot of things. they may not be sure what to make of rachel jeantel. but they believe trayvon martin was followed, was pursued by george zimmerman. and whatever else after that happened came about because george zimmerman ignored the dispatcher and went looking for this guy. >> because of the focus on jeantel, i want to play just a little bit of sound from it. let's take a look at this exchange with the defense attorney. >> of course, you don't know if he was telling you the truth or not. >> why you need to lie about that, sir? >> maybe if he decided to assault george zimmerman, he didn't want you to know about it? >> that's absolutely retarded, sir. >> i'm sorry? >> that's really retarded to do that, sir. >> dana, there are some people who criticized don west for being really tough in rachel jeantel on how he questioned her. how tough to go given the age of the person on the witness stand and given the way that you as the attorney, as well as the person on the stand has to come across? >> i think as a defense attorney as it relates to each and every
was on the phone with him when the confrontation unfolded. rachel jeantel probably made an impression on you and some think maybe the wrong impression on jurors. the big developments from martin salve individual. >> reporter: wound two of the clash in the courtroom between the star witness and veteran defense attorney. it started out nice enough, rachel jeantel seemed to have adopted a more respectful tone. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: but it wasn't long before her yes, sirs seemed to take on a sharper edge. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: defense attorney don west was out to discredit her testimony that george zimmerman was the aggressor and pointed to numerous changes in her story in pref juvious accou including a letter to trayvon's mom describing what she heard and left out the derogatory language. >> you specifically chose not to tell ms. fulton that's what trayvon said. >> no. >> because you thought it would hurt her feelings, didn't you? >> no. >> you didn't think that would bother her, if you said that her son described the man that was following him in a car on the phone -- >> i didn't think
-examination for trayvon martin's friend who was on the phone with him when the confrontation unfolded. rachel jeantel probably made an impression on you and some think maybe the wrong impression on jurors. today, there appeared to be changes. more on the attitude adjustment and all the other big developments tonight from martin savidge. >> reporter: round two of the clash in the courtroom between the star witness and veteran defense attorney. it started out nice enough, rachel jeantel seemed to have adopted a more respectful tone. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: but it wasn't long before her yes, sirs seemed to take on a sharper edge. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: defense attorney don west was out to discredit her testimony that george zimmerman was the aggressor and pointed to numerous changes in her story in previous accounts including a letter to trayvon's mother, describing what she heard. in it, she left out trayvon's derogatory racial language. >> you specifically chose not to tell ms. fulton that's what trayvon said. >> no. >> because you thought it would hurt her feelings, didn't you? >> no. >> you did
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. for the past two days a 19-year-old named rachel jeantel, key witness for the prosecution, has been testifying and it's resulted in a cultural clash inside the courtroom and all over social media. i'll explain coming up. frequentn but now, thanks to treating with prilosec otc, we don't have to suffer like they used to. [ bell dings ] ♪ [ horse whinnies ] getting heartburn and then treating day after day is a thing of the past. block the acid with prilosec otc, and don't get heartburn in the first place. we've sure come a long way. ♪ [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. >>> a big new development tonight from nbc news investigative correspondent michael isikoff on the ongoing investigation into the leaking of classified information about u.s. cyber warfare. sources telling michael isikoff that retired marine general james "hoss" cartwright, former vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff has been notified he is under investigation for allegedly leaking information about a massive attack using a computer virus named stuxnet on iran's nuclear facilities. the st
. >> we've got to take a break. next, more on rachel jeantel, who she is, why she's been less than truthful about a number of things in the past. and later, a "360" exclusive. inside perspective from george zimmerman's co-counsel and more from the attorney for trayvon martin's family. [ male announcer ] we've been conditioned to accept less and less in the name of style and sophistication. but to us, less isn't more. more is more. abundant space, available leading-edge technology, impeccable design, and more than you've come to expect from a luxury vehicle. the lexus es350 and epa-estimated 40 mpg es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. and epa-estimated 40 mpg es hybrid. this is what matters. the experience of a product. how will it make someone feel? will it make life better? does it deserve to exist? we spend a lot of time on a few great things. until every idea we touch enhances each life it touches. you may rarely look at it. but you'll always feel it. this is our signature. and it means everything. yeah... try new alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heartburn an
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are they going to believe? george zimmerman or rachel jeantel. >> the testimony she gave about hearing the wet grass, a lot of people on tv have been making fun of that since they heard it. but is what she is saying, trayvon martin had a cell phone piece, a bluetooth piece in his ear, and then at that point he was actually thrown to the ground in struggle with george zimmerman, and the ear piece itself was rubbing along the grass? is that what that testimony is supposed to mean? >> i think that is what she means. she said she was talking to trayvon martin and that in the middle of the conversation, she heard the aggressive, dominant voice, a man who was breathing hard asked trayvon, what are you doing around here? and the next thing she heard was wet grass on the ground. so it is pretty clear she is trying to indicate that the wet grass and ear bud fell out of his ear and that the phone was on the ground. and within seconds. >> let's listen to how george zimmerman's lawyer addressed the 911 tape on cross examination. >> so the question is, well, who is screaming for help? it is not trayvon is
. >> reporter: rachel jeantel never wanted any of this. no media glare, no attention, and no tough questions about her phone call with trayvon martin moments before he was shot. that may be why she lied about her age. >> did you say that you were 16 so that you could try to maintain more privacy? >> yes. >> so you wanted to make yourself seem like a minor so maybe there wouldn't be as much public disclosure as if you said your true age of 18? >> yes. >> reporter: today, rachel jeantel is 19 and her life story from what we can piece together is more exposed than she had ever dreamed. she attended miami senior high school. according to her facebook page, took classes in criminal justice at miami university. though the school tells us they have no record of her. she's from north miami, where she says she and trayvon martin met in elementary school. why do we care so much about who this woman is? because her testimony about what trayvon told her the night he died could make or break the case. if what she says is true, trayvon martin was scared and trying to get away from a man pursuing him, a ma
-examination of 19-year-old rachel jeantel. the last person to speak to trayvon martin on the day he was shot. there's been a brief recess. i'm joined by our legal expert, lisa bloom. lisa, what's your reaction to what you've been hearing? >> well, let me explain first what's going on. attorneys are not allowed to make speaking ukz an objections which means we're only supposed to say the legal ground for the objection. not a long speech about why the evidence shouldn't come in. if attorneys have more to say, they're going to sidebar. this witness on the stand is a very important witness for the prosecution. she's a young woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin just before this altercation. she's now on cross-examination. and the defense is trying to bring out inconsistencies even lies that she has told in this case, and so far, they've gotten her to acknowledge two that she lied about not going to mar ten's wake. she said she had been in the hospital. it turns out she just did not want to go because it was emotionally upsetting for her to do that. he got her to concede she had lied about her
george zimmerman started as rachel jeantel take two, a key witness for the state who appeared wednesday to be emotional one moment, combative the next. what a difference a day makes. >> are you okay this morning? >> yes. >> you seem so different than yesterday. i'm just checking. did someone talk with you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no, i went to sleep. >> reporter: a more subdued jeantel endured more than three hours of meticulous questioning from defense attorney don west who challenged the 19-year-old's account of what she heard when she was on the cell phone with trayvon martin a little more than a minute before the fatal shooting. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he had to. >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face? >> please lower your voice? >> no, sir. >> reporter: later the teen held firm to her account of who attacked who. >> i thought in fact you said it could have been for all you know trayvon martin smashing g
to want to change. >>> and the cross-examination of rachel jeantel, reluctant witness in the trayvon martin case is a reluctant subject of national conversation. why what people say about her says more about them than the witness. >>> but tonight, we start with the uprising in the state of texas. an uprising that started last week when democrats and activists there began to mobilize against a restrictive abortion bill making its way through the texas senate. and that uprising has only gained strength. and if you want to know why, right now, people in texas are rising up and why it's not likely to end any time soon, let me tell you about texas governor rick perry's last 26 hours. at 6:37 p.m. last night, the state of texas executed its 500th, 500th inmate. a woman by the name of kimberly mccarthy, former cocaine addict who was convicted of killing her 71-year-old neighbor in a 1997 robbery. it is the 261st execution rick perry has signed off on as governor, far and away the most executions carried out by any governor in modern history. in fact, rick perry has signed off on more execut
witness rachel jeantel, the high school classmate joins me in a moment for an exclusive interview. this is "piers morgan live." >>> martin, dramatic day today and if to date we felt that perhaps the state was beginning to win the argument, today very much a better day you would say for the defense? >> reporter: absolutely and ironically, piers, the witnesses were supposed to be on the stand for the state, but it appears the testimony they gave benefits the defense. the question has been who was on top? what i mean by that is that the defense has maintained it was george zimmerman on the ground being beaten by 17-year-old trayvon martin, but up until now, the witnesses we had have really only said what they heard. today jonathan good took the stand, and he says he actually saw the struggle that took place between those two men, and he says from his vantage point, he could tell who was on top and who was on the bottom. he was talking about their race. listen to the testimony. >> in terms of describing the individuals, are you able to describe their faces or anything or just clothing
% sure. and his story has changed, just like rachel jeantel's story. his story has changed from prior statements to some extent. >> i want to hone in on what lisa was saying. when he was asked about who was yelling for help, he says twel seems logically that's who it would be. when he was asked about sort of the fundamental points who was yelling for help, sounded like he was just speculating based on what he logically thinks is the case. >> he was speculating but plant being the seed that trayvon martin might have initiated the contact. now we are going to the to the perception it was this violent confrontation and that ground-and-pound. so much of the facts in those early moments were muddled but the perception trayvon martin was this mma-trained fighter, they're playing on that and i wonder how it will play with the jury. >> the ground-and-pound thing was something the defense kept repeating over and over again but the prosecution managed to establish that this is not what john good initially said. he thought that he remembered that he described the fight as ground-and-pound. it tu
.m. tonight eastern time. >>> ahead, the witness everybody is talking about. rachel jeantel. what does she think about her testimony, and how she was treated in the court? we'll have an exclusive live interview with her lawyer. >>> plus, who is winning with the jury? how is the jury responding to george zimmerman himself and trayvon martin's parents? >>> and the supreme court ruled that obama care is the law of the land, and republicans still haven't gotten over it. how to stop the gop from blocking millions of americans from getting health care they need. >>> and i love hearing from you. send me your e-mails. reply al is coming. stay with us. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ can help
took the stand. her name is rachel jeantel. she was trayvon martin's friend. she told the jury she was on the phone with him when he approached the teen. >> he said why are you following me and i heard him say what are you doing around here. >> martin savage is in florida for us. everybody was watching her. she was the person speaking to trayvon martin the last moment he was alive and as he died what else did she say? >> reporter: from a totally nonlegal perspective it was one of the most remarkable testimonies i have ever seen. and there is a lot you can talk about. let's talk about the specifics. on top of saying she claims it was george zimmerman she could hear being the aggressor she says she can hear trayvon saying get off, get off. that would clearly imply it moved beyond george zimmerman confronting the teen to assaulting the team and perhaps on top of the teen which flies in the face of the self-defense. she said previously and on the stand that the voice, the 911 call, the screaming heard in the background she talks to trayvon, did talk to him all the time and she says it
question. nobody has been able to answer who ran at who, which is why rachel jeantel could be such an important witness. she is potentially the only one that heard the beginning of the fight and if jurors believe her, what she's testifying to. she's testifying that george zimmerman approached trayvon martin when he walked him and said -- well, trayvon martin turned around and said to george zimmerman, what are you following me for? and george zimmerman said something to the effect, what are you doing in this neighborhood, what are you doing around here? and the scuffle started after that. and she didn't actually see it with her own eyes, she's claiming that trayvon martin was yelling get off me. and she believes george zimmerman is the one that started this. >> do people in the courtroom think this witness jeantel, she sort of claimed sides, a partisan witness, or did people get the sense she was objectively reported what she saw, or heard? >> you know, she -- it goes back and forth. trying to protect the words that trayvon was saying, like creepy ass cracker and using an "
far, including rachel jeantel and still find zimmerman not guilty. here's why. based on what jeantel testified to, you would have to believe that zimmerman was the aggressor. but then john good shows at some point trayvon martin got the upper hand. if you believe them both and zimmerman was the initial aggressor and trayvon martin responded and became the superior one in terms of getting the jump on zimmerman. however, self-defense cannot be claimed by someone who is the initial aggressor in the case unless he pulls back, tries to stop the hostilities, and then the other person comes at him again. then he can use self-defense. in this case, because zimmerman is characterized by some as being the one crying for help, the jury could believe that he did try to pull back and stop, and even though he was the initial aggressor, he tried to stop and trayvon martin would not stop. at that point, he would be entitled to use self-defense. even if you believe both of these key witnesses for the prosecution, you could find zimmerman not guilty. >> danny, do you agree with that? >> yeah. i want t
-year-old rachel jeantel, who was the last person to speak to trayvon martin before his confrontation with george zimmerman. she described her final cell phone call with trayvon martin when he told her a man was following him. >> he said -- i asked him where are you at? and he told me he at the back of his fiancee's house, right in the area where -- by his fiancee's house. he said no, he lost them. and then he said why are you following me? and i heard him, what are you doing around here? i heard trayvon martin say what is going on? i heard trayvon's head set. >> you heard a bump? >> yeah. >> and what did you assume it was? >> the head set. >> what happened then? >> and then i started hearing grass sounds, wet grass sounds. >> what do you mean you heard grass sounds? >> like wet grass, wet grass. >> okay. then what happened? >> and then i kept calling, trayvon, and get off, get off. >> okay, let me stop you, you heard a grass sound and you said something, what did you say? >> i said trayvon, what is going on? >> and what did you hear? >> i kept hearing trayvon saying get off, get off.
trial, the defense finally wrapped up its questioning of rachel jeantel, the 19-year-old who was on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he was killed. this cross-examination lasted five hours over two days. also today, testimony from the neighbor who made the 911 call, where loud screaming can be heard, and then a gunshot. jurors heard her account of that scream. and today another witness testified she saw george zimmerman on top of trayvon martin after the altercation. she is the third witness to say so. but for most of the day, rachel jeantel faced questions from the zimmerman defense team. and they tried to undermine her story. the defense repeatedly raised questions about her version of events, but she did not waiver from her testimony that trayvon martin did not confront george zimmerman. >> he said why are you following me for, didn't he? >> no, sir, not that kind of way, sir. >> it was just a question, hey, mister, why are you following me for? >> he say hey, mister, why are you following me, for. he just asked the question, why are you following me for. >> an
and the witness rachel jeantel is the closest the prosecution has to anyone seeing that initial confront jays. >> she's not seeing she's hearing. jose to button up the other side. it can still be self-defense because if the fate changes in the fight even if zimmerman started it he could have been in a position to where he felt his life was threatened. how do they argue that? >> in the state of florida you can't claim self-defense if you're the initial aggressor. the initial aggressor is the key issue here. really, rachel jeantel is the only witness that talks about whether who is the initial aggressor. everything else is murky. >> the big testimony of the day what will move the needle on day tree, rachel jeantel says i heard trayvon martin say get off, get off. yes he identified somebody following him. the guy was creepy. are those the most important word of the day, poll? >> think so. i think so. the only other person -- there's two people there, george zimmerman and trayvon martin. trayvon martin is not going to be able to testify. the only one who can testify on his behalf and bring words
years of age going into her senior year of high school. friend of trayvon martin's. rachel jeantel. been on the stand for -- i take that back. let's listen. >> miami, is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> and you spoke english at home? >> what age are you talking about, sir? >> that's what i'm asking you. are you saying that english is your third language? that you spoke creole and spanish first? >> i spoke three language first. i learned how to speak -- creole was the first one. >> does your mother speak english? >> not that well, sir. >> does she speak english? >> not that well, sir. >> i understand she may have an accent or some limitations, but do you speak to her in english? >> sometimes, sir. >> and if you're not speaking to her in english, you're speaking to her in creole? >> yes, sir. >> and your father, do you speak to him in english? >> yes, sir. >> and when you went to school as a child, kindergarten, did you speak english at school? >> yes, sir. >> and have you spoken english to your teachers and classmates in school up through today? >> yes, sir. >> are you claiming in any way th
. her name rachel jeantel, just left the stand minutes ago after several hours of testimony. the 19-year-old made it clear in her own words and body language she does not want to be on the stand. the exchanges between this young woman and defense attorney don west have been contentious. >> so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise like something hitting somebody? >> that trayvon got hit, trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> he had to -- >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face? >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> our george howell and sunny hostin are outside the court in sanford, florida. george, let me start with you. this young woman very soft spoken and very reluctant to be there, that's obvious to anyone watching her testimony. give us the head lines of what happened over the past few hours today for the viewers that were not watching. >> wolf, certainly. you have to first compare what we saw yesterday to what we're seeing
witness in the george zimmerman murder trial wrapped up her spellbinding testimony. rachel jeantel is the 19-year-old friend on the phone with trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed. testimony she gave yesterday elevated the racial component of the trail after she said that trayvon described zimmerman as a, quote, cracker. today the defense revisited that issue. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial. >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this. >> no. >> you don't think hats a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> not racial? okay. according to jeantel, that's apparently just how people talk. >> my question is, do you recall mr. west asking you that trayvon martin referred to the man that was following him as a creepy white cracker? >> yes, sir, sir. >> and to you is that a derogatory or is that the way people speak in your culture, your age group? >> objection. leading. suggesting an
'll tell you when to turn the volume down. here's randi kaye's report. >> reporter: rachel jeantel and trayvon martin were old friends, and contrary to reports, they were only friends. >> you weren't in any way his girlfriend? >> no. >> reporter: the two reconnected just weeks before trayvon martin's death. on the night he died from the other end of the phone line, she was, in a sense, within earshot of the tragedy as it unfolded. that's why she's the state's star witness, the only one they think who can tell trayvon's side of the story. >> what was he complaining about? >> that a man kept watching him. >> reporter: it was clear from the start she does not relish her new found fame, mumbling her answers. the court reporter had to keep stopping for clarification, and the defense complained repeatedly. >> give your answers as slowly and clearly and as loudly as you can. >> reporter: she painted a picture of a teenager feeling threatened, and on the run from a strange man. >> i asked him how the man looked like. he looked like a creepy ass cracker. >> let me make sure we got that. cre
. for a second day, rachel jeantel described as the prosecution's key witness underwent a long and grueling cross-examination. zimmerman is accused of murdering the unarmed trayvon martin last year. trying to discredit the young woman who was the last person to speak to martin moments before he was killed. and in fact as he did yesterday, west exposed a number of inconsistencies in numerous efforts to describe what happened that night. but what is not as clear is whether west managed to successfully challenge the core of her story, that george zimmerman stalked trayvon martin moments before their fatal confrontation. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst lisa bloom, and former florida circuit court judge alex ferrer. judge alex, is she as integral to the prosecution of this case as we have all made her out today? >> she absolutely is. she is the key witness. she was talking to him at the time of the confrontation, or right up to the confrontation. she provides a lot of detail she would love the jury to believe. she testifies the fact that trayvon martin says to zimmerman when he supposedly approach
into video there in the courtroom. you can see george zimmerman there and at the stand, rachel jeantel is back in the courtroom. just yesterday when she was told she would have to return by donny donwest. she did seem like a bit annoyed. don west said it could take a couple more hours for this testimony to continue. >> george howell, thanks so much. as you can see, as george said, the trial is now under way. rachel jeantel now sitting on the stand and george zimmerman is sitting. they're waiting for the jury to enter the courtroom. once the jury is seated, the proceedings will begin. we'll wait for the jury to come into the courtroom. we'll look at what rachel jeantel's testimony means for this. sunny hostin in atlanta and with me here is page pate. good morning. >> good morning. >> sunny, if the twitterverse is any indication, two tweets point othat. one says breaking rachel jeantel guilty of murdering the leengli language. what is your take on her testimony, sunny? >> you know, i think that's an unfair characterization of what's happening in the courtroom. yes, perhaps she is the mos
questioning in the murder trial of george zimmerman. rachel jeantel was on the phone with martin the moments before the altercation. we heard today during five hours of testimony the defense tore into her version of what she heard on the phone. >> so the last think you heard was some kind of noise, like something hitting somebody? >> trayvon got hit -- trayvon got hit -- >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit? you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face? >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> martin savidge is outfront at the courthouse in sanford, florida. you heard zimmerman's lawyer trying to get the door to open about trayvon martin being the aggressor. >> i think he did a good job there. he did two things there. number one, he got her to admit that, well, maybe she didn't know as confidently as she thought she did the chain of events. the other thing s. he also interjected there the defense's narration, in other words, it was trayvon martin who was the aggressor here,
tell w -- rachel jeantel. we have our legal team standing by that's watching this as well, veteran prosecutor paul henderson also joining us kendall coffee a former prosecutor, lisa bloom. lisa, let me start with you. how is rachel doing as a witness? i would imagine she's been instructed to answer as little as possible, yes, sir or no, sir. >> yes. on kroengs that's exactly the way you're supposed to answer and today she's adding in sir and even mr. west in a sign of respect for the defense attorney. he's now boring in on probably the most important testimony. she said she heard trayvon martin say "get off get off." mr. west is pointing out this is inconsistent. >> is west being a bit combative anticipates few moments ago when he was pressing her on whether or not she could attest to the fact that trayvon didn't make some sort of physical motion towards zimmerman? >> i think his demeanor has been pretty patient, pretty good. but she's doing better today. and one thing i think is coming across that may be very difficult for the defense to shake. i think this witness is convincing t
that aspect of the case. because yesterday the question of rachel jeantel's demeanor around the way she came across was important. do you think that changed? >> i'm so glad you are raising this topic. i think we are having two different conversations in this conversation. we have rachel jeantel, who has a certain manner of speaking, and we have a defense attorney who has a completely different manner of speaki ingspeaking. some people watching this case are saying is he being so mean to her, but this is the way we conduct cross examination and this is the way a trial proceeds. >> you do specifically remember that when mr. de la rionda asked you did he ever say the guy got out of the car, that you did not say, in response, you want that, too? >> no, sir. i did not even say "you want that, too," no, i did not say that, sir. >> could we play that portion, please? >> judge, i have no objection. >> thank you. >> i'm going to object to the rest of it -- i apologiapologiz. i didn't mean to make a speaking objection. improper impeachment and manner in which it is being played. my objection. >> what
, rachel jeantel was a key witness earlier this week and described the phone call she had with mr. martin before his confrontation with mr. zimmerman. the defense was attempting to discredit her. in your opinion, do you think they were successful in doing so? >> i'm not sure they were. if i'm a defense attorney and i've got a person on the stand, then i want to make sure that i am able to impeach their credibility at nearly every level. and it seems as though some of the statements that miss jean tell said were not true. we was not 16. she did not give sybrina fulton her real name. and she had some very plausible speaking from her culture, a very plausible reason as to why not to tell the truth in those situations. was she, however, consistent in that she believed trayvon not to be the aggressor? was she consistent in that trayvon was near his father's house and simply trying to get away from george zimmerman? >> he was absolutely consistent in those things and there was nothing that don west did to underkuta credibility. so some of the moral unfortunate advice voices we've heard online a
in the trial against george zimmerman started as rachel jeantel take two. a key witness for the state who appeared wednesday to be emotional one moment, combative the next, what a difference a day makes. >> are you okay this morning? >> yes. >> you seem so different than yesterday. just checking. did someone talk with you last night about your demeanor in court yesterday? >> no. i went to sleep. >> a more subdued jeantel endured more than three hours of meticulous questioning from defense attorney don west who challenged the 19 year old's account of what she heard when she was on the cell phone with trayvon martin a little more than a minute before the fatal shooting. >> trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no, sir. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit? >> no. >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face. >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> but moments later when asked the same question during the grilling, the teen held firm to her account of who attacked who. >> i thought in fact that you
for the second day in a row as a so-called star witness for the prosecution, rachel jeantel, the last person believed to talk to trayvon martin before his deadly confrontation. amid hours of cross-examination from the defense, it was almost impossible to turn away from her animated expressions, combative answers and often irritated demeanor. now the big question is this -- did she help or hurt the state's case? cnn's martin savidge has been inside the courtroom all day. he's joining us right now with the very latest. so what happened? >> reporter: rachel jeantel is the kind of witness that journalists love but also the kind of witness that can be both a nightmare for the prosecution and defense and she probably lived up to that reputation over these past two days. however, that said, she did seem to be different today on the stand. her responses, depending on how you weigh the "yes, sir" seemed to have a bit more respect and decorum than yesterday and she also seemed for firm in her answers when challenged. she is key as a witness. she maintains she was on the phone with trayvon martin right
about the case right now now the testimony of rachel jeantel, she is really the star witness. jeffrey toobin, cnn legal analyst, what is don west trying to achieve here, other than undermining her credibility talking about the lies she has told? >> i think it's two things, one she's simply a liar and not to be trusted. in addition, he is trying to portray her essentially as part of the martin family, the prosecution, that she basically signed a -- -- >> keep talking. >> -- that she basically signed on with the martin family and said what they wanted her to say in the most incriminating way about george zimmerman. that is the sort of larger purpose, in addition to saying she's an unreliable person. >> the picture they're wayning to paint is, for want of a better word, the publicity machine, and when they're citing the abc interview and other things, they're trying to paint this picture of this machine working forward that has nothing to do with justice? >> right. you know, i don't know how effective that has been. in a way, her naivete, her difficulty expressing herself, seems to me in
. but in one day rachel jeantel has spent more time on television than the president of the united states and she is back on tv today. because she is back on the witness stand today. in the george zimmerman murder trial. she is the state's star witness because she is trayvon martin's friend and because she and only she spent just about the entire day on and off the telephone with trayvon right up until the moment he was shot dead by george zimmerman. her testimony has been contentious, frustrating, foggy, and gripping. but maybe most important, it's critical. george howell doing a live reporting for us in sanford, florida, following this gavel to gavel. give me the quick catch me up to speed if we're just tuning in right now how has the morning gone so far and what has she said? >> ashleigh, good morning. her demeanor is different. yesterday she seemed you that he was running at that point because you could hear wind? >> yes. >> and that's when the phone went off? >> yes. >> and then about 20 seconds later, you reconnected and you were able to talk with him? >> yes, mr. west. >> and you d
of rachel jeantel who was on the phone with him right before he was shot by george zimmerman. on a few key points, her story has changed from what she originally told authorities. she described zimmerman this way, according to what martin told her. >> she said the man looked creepy. >> creepy white, cracker. >> they are having trouble hearing you. take your time. >> creepy ass cracker. >> you are saying in the culture that you live in, in your community, people call people there call white people crackers? >> yes, sir. >> and do they use the "n" word regularly? >> yes, sir. >> she went on to say that she didn't think this was racist. for many nonblacks this was shocking to hear. after all paula deen has been excoriated for the last week and lost most of hers business interest for admitting to using the "n" word in the past. yet liberal defenders of ms. jeantel took to the internet and cable to scold white america for failing to understand her point of view. she may not be sophisticated but she is authentic in the black culture the argument goes. folks, this is insane. so it's a cultural ba
-year-old rachel jeantel the woman who was on phone trayvon martin shortly before he was shot by george zimmerman. let's go to our legal analyst, lisa bloom. >> the first thing that jumps out she has a different attitude this morning. the defense attorney even commented about it. almost every question she's answering with sir, yes, sir, no, sir, much more muted attitude. a couple of times she rolled her eyes. a couple of times she gave it back to him a little bit. she said she a good night's sleep. for whatever reason her attitude is different. it seems a big part it but a big part of it is he spent a lot of time talking about who she told in the conversation with trayvon martin she heard him say "get off get off." let's talk about the significance much that. >> one of the biggest issues in this case who was the afwrggrag. the prosecutor says george zimmerman was the aggressor. the defense says george zimmerman acted in defense after trayvon martin attacked him. we know she was on the phone with trayvon martin. she said the very last thing trayvon martin say was "get off get off" and th
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